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Old 10-22-2011, 07:25 PM
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Swimming pool waterfall

A small waterfall for a swimming pool project we did this year. It was built for maximum sound which is why it is more like a cascade in the middle. HO was pleased.





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Old 10-22-2011, 08:23 PM
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I would love to have that as part of a swimming pool. I've seen too many pools that use the fake rock and make it look like a disney world display. I'll bet the homeowner was pleased.

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Old 10-22-2011, 10:30 PM
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That is very nice. I agree with Clark's comments
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Old 11-12-2011, 09:48 PM
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You touch on one of my biggest peeves. NOISE in the backyard.

We have smaller lots out here in the Burbes but, I can't tell you how many POOL BUILDERS are putting their equipment smack in the middle of the backyard where all the pump noise can be heard. . . (I think you can.) Look at my pictures and see how we've hidden the pool pump / valves (noise too).

Again, noise is a peeve of mine. Amazing how many put in a waterfall then can't hear it because their pump is in their backyard too.
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Old 11-12-2011, 11:28 PM
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Well, if by " I think you can" meaning that the mechanicals can be heard, you would be wrong in this case.

The waterfall here is in the middle of 23 acres for one thing, so even if they a had 5 pumps running nobody would hear it..but thats not the point. The equipment was concealed so the sound wouldnt compete with the waterfall or visually destroy the landscape. The only "noise" you hear when the waterfall is running is the waterfall itself. This was thought about in the design stages.

By the tone of your post, it seems like you dont have many quality pool builders around your area if they cant even create a natural feature that ends up getting lost to mechanical sounds or simply disguise the pump,filter and valves.
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Old 11-13-2011, 01:36 AM
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Goog Job.

As far as homes getting pools in the backyard along with the equipment in the backyard(along with the noise.) I think my experience is with pools built in the last 6 yrs. in a highly growing area. . . The bottom line is, I think there were salesman doing the backyard design not POOL GUYS like yourself. I think you should make sure you tell your customers about it. The fact that you look at things like noise should make a difference to people. . . . (Now, let us know when you use it!!!)
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Old 11-13-2011, 10:12 AM
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I think there were salesman doing the backyard design not POOL GUYS like yourself. I think you should make sure you tell your customers about it. The fact that you look at things like noise should make a difference to people. . . . (Now, let us know when you use it!!!)
Thanks for the reply...

Your pet peeve is vaild but it is not isolated to noisey pool installs. Contracting in general has people on both sides of the fence, those that value quality and a thought out design and those interested in getting it done so they can move to the next job. You will see plenty of the later in a fast developing area.

Like many contractors that belong to this forum, I have kept my business small for many reasons but the main one for me is having quality control. I'm not saying a large company cant or wont do quality work as I personally know several that can and do. Small or large, a company that is only production oriented as their MO will yield the type of jobs that you are peeved about.
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Also, there are some customers or builders that dont value details or things that require extra planning and cost...even if it is within their means. Its only about finishing fast whether it is a big budget job or not. Sometimes as a contractor you have to do things that you wouldnt do if it was in your control. I'm not talking about structural or installation methods here...because if you compromise on these, the work is doomed to fail in functionality and asthetic. My website and portfolio has pictures of styles that quite honestly I dont care for but it is how the HO/builder/architect specified...and this is how I support my family so I do it. Goes with the territory for the most part.

Side points...

I am not a POOLGUY,I am a stonemason...though it seems like I am getting a lot of pool projects the past 4 years. The HO hired a pool builder and worked with him on the shape but we designed everything else.My wife is the "garden" side of our business, with the design and layout and I help with installs. This became a great project because the HO wanted quality combined with functionality, had vision and.... he had a budget that made it happen.

The waterfall was in operation the last two weeks we were on the job finishing the plants and doing the japanese drain(pics in another thread). The HO was pleased with the sound and how you couldnt hear the mechanicals..so were we.

Sorry for the book but I guess you touched on one of my pet peeves..crappy work.
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Old 11-14-2011, 02:23 AM
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That is nice work. Assisted in placing rock for waterfall pool project, using real rock, used some specialised gear, grinders and polishers, shaping some rocks to fit together was a challenge and at times a head ache, large one. Had no idea of budget as was a sub con. It was big, quality had to be high. I've taken pictures but the client made us sign non disclosure and paid us a bonus for that aspect.
I drive past the big gates and wonder how it looks or if it is maintained. We finished the work lawns etc the gates closed behind us and haven't been back for 4 years we still wonder.

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It's all good. Sorry if I offended you. . .

We seem to just see the POOL SALESMAN type in our area. There are too many pool pumps w/in 10' of the pool. As you can immagine with that kind of distance and no blockade the noise let-off is crazy.


Anyways, I've got no idea with the work you do Stonecutter but, I think it is good based on our conversations (I've never seen it first hand so, can't comment on that but, anyone that shows this kind of care IS doing it right.)

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Thanks for the reply...

Your pet peeve is vaild but it is not isolated to noisey pool installs. Contracting in general has people on both sides of the fence, those that value quality and a thought out design and those interested in getting it done so they can move to the next job. You will see plenty of the later in a fast developing area.

Like many contractors that belong to this forum, I have kept my business small for many reasons but the main one for me is having quality control. I'm not saying a large company cant or wont do quality work as I personally know several that can and do. Small or large, a company that is only production oriented as their MO will yield the type of jobs that you are peeved about.
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Also, there are some customers or builders that dont value details or things that require extra planning and cost...even if it is within their means. Its only about finishing fast whether it is a big budget job or not. Sometimes as a contractor you have to do things that you wouldnt do if it was in your control. I'm not talking about structural or installation methods here...because if you compromise on these, the work is doomed to fail in functionality and asthetic. My website and portfolio has pictures of styles that quite honestly I dont care for but it is how the HO/builder/architect specified...and this is how I support my family so I do it. Goes with the territory for the most part.

Side points...

I am not a POOLGUY,I am a stonemason...though it seems like I am getting a lot of pool projects the past 4 years. The HO hired a pool builder and worked with him on the shape but we designed everything else.My wife is the "garden" side of our business, with the design and layout and I help with installs. This became a great project because the HO wanted quality combined with functionality, had vision and.... he had a budget that made it happen.

The waterfall was in operation the last two weeks we were on the job finishing the plants and doing the japanese drain(pics in another thread). The HO was pleased with the sound and how you couldnt hear the mechanicals..so were we.

Sorry for the book but I guess you touched on one of my pet peeves..crappy work.
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Old 11-14-2011, 06:33 PM
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It's all good. Sorry if I offended you. . .

We seem to just see the POOL SALESMAN type in our area. There are too many pool pumps w/in 10' of the pool. As you can immagine with that kind of distance and no blockade the noise let-off is crazy.


Anyways, I've got no idea with the work you do Stonecutter but, I think it is good based on our conversations (I've never seen it first hand so, can't comment on that but, anyone that shows this kind of care IS doing it right.)
No worries I`m not offended at all. I only wanted to clear up what I do...and maybe rant about hacky work. If you want to see some stuff that I have done, I have uploaded a bunch of pictures to albums in my profile or click the link to my website in my sig...what you see is what you get.
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:30 PM
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Now that is a great waterfall element for the pool! I hope those pictures are being used as promotional pieces. The pool looks more esthetically pleasing when you use real rocks and not fake plaster looking ones. Nice job!
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This is very large and looks nice!
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It looks lovely! Great job!
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