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11-15-2005, 07:46 PM
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Where do you get rid of spoils and excavated Material?
Hello to all again,
My business plan is coming along quite well although I have a question for you. Where do you haul your excavated material - dirt that needs to be excavated for retaining walls and paver paitos and also if you tear out concrete and replace with pavers, where do you haul all this stuff?
Thanks in advance.
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11-15-2005, 08:46 PM
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This was a problem for me in the past. I would try to dispose on-site, at a local construction site if available, or I'd pay for a roll-off to haul it away.
Now, I usually take it in my dump trailer to the aggregate supplier I use. They charge a minimal fee (e.g. $20 for 3 yds) to dump it there, then I fill up with my 3/4- or whatever I'm buying and head back to the job site. Much easier now.
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11-15-2005, 10:27 PM
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There are 4 designated fill sites in San Diego county where we pay between $225.00 for a tandem axle, and as little as $75.00 for a bobtail.
We add 20% to all estimated spoils to be trucked, and factor macxhine time, plus trucking, plus any hand labor involved for silt retention.
On rare occasion, we can find places near where we are digging that will accept fines.
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11-15-2005, 11:59 PM
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B&B Tree
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Wow! Around here there are signs people put up "Clean fill wanted". You dump for free, or even get paid a nominal fee. Interesting how different regions handle things.
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11-16-2005, 12:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Pelican
Wow! Around here there are signs people put up "Clean fill wanted". You dump for free, or even get paid a nominal fee. Interesting how different regions handle things.
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Same here, but 95% of the time i never have any soil left to haul away, i almost always have to bring more in to finish grade
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11-16-2005, 08:49 AM
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We have a couple private facilities that accept such material. $60 minimum fee.
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11-16-2005, 12:43 PM
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Acorn
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There is a family down the street from me that is offering a $25 "driver tip" for clean fill...
When you pull in their driveway there is a piece of plywood up at dumptruck height with 8 envelopes in ziplock bags.
The sign on the board says-
"we can only afford 8 loads per week.
Feel free to take all 8 envelopes IF you will bring 8 loads THIS WEEK
If not, please leave the envelopes for the others."
You might say we live in a fairly crime free neighborhood, but one week somebody took 5 envelopes & never brought any fill.
Now the chief of police watches those envelopes every Monday morning when they are put out, until the guys stop & get them.
The envelopes go out @ 8am & are usually gone by 8:15
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11-16-2005, 04:41 PM
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For concrete, Check the yellow pages under Concrete and/or Crushed Stone or Sand. Check the ads for places that advertise recycled concrete. Phone them up and ask what they charge to dump there. Here I pay $5/ton to dump concrete at a recycler vs $70/ton at the local landfill. Some of those places may accept clean fill as well.
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11-16-2005, 11:56 PM
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There's a recycling plant 5 min. from me that accepts concrete/asphalt here too. It used to be more difficult for me to get rid of that then it was to even get rid of clean fill. Now I know I can go there and give the guy $5-$10 bucks and I'm good-to-go.
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11-17-2005, 11:05 AM
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We are fortunate to have our own property, and we utilize all spoils in creating new can yard. However, we have just about reached our limit on our existing area,but there are tons of private places to dump spoils around here.
All clean soils, or marginal soils are stockpiled, mixed with compost, tilled and the reused on other jobs. We average about 150 cy each year. Not much, but we make some money back on it.
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06-19-2006, 08:05 PM
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One possibility that I don't believe anyone mentioned was to dispose of debri on site.
Sometimes it is possible and sometimes it isn't.
We get our bobcat with toothed bucked and dig a bury pit. Just a hole in the ground that gets covered over.
Of course make sure the property owner is ok with this and no rules are broken too badly. And be careful to look for gas and utility lines. Do give some thought to what to bury and what not to bury.
Often times when you explain to the customer the cost of hauling debri away, they are only too glad to thank you for saving them money.
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06-19-2006, 09:52 PM
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i believe the EPA made it illegal to bury anything
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06-19-2006, 10:20 PM
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You can't bury ANYTHING? I wouldn't bury asphalt or concrete but I've definately gotten rid of a pile of subsoil and some fieldstone that way.
Around here there are few materials yards/ construction companies that will take pretty much anything that can be screened or crushed and used in asphalt, concrete or sold as "screened loam" (of course you have to be careful your not buying "screened subsoil" if you buy from these same companies. They take almost anything for free.
If there's nobody like that around you might try asking some excavation constractor or builder as they often need material to build up grades.
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06-20-2006, 05:55 AM
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I love it when im rototillling and find that the last homeowner buried all the asbestos floor tiles in the back yard.
(thankfully thats a scenerio)
However all is to be expected on breaking ground on a job in a somewhat under educated commuinity. That cleanup is is in the 10 page contract aswell.
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06-20-2006, 10:21 PM
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if you cant buy anything than why the heck can all other subs for builders or even builders themselves get away with it? New lawns and installs around here ;we find so much stuff its rediculous.
Sleepy
thats not a scenario where I live, people do that!
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