[agla]

As th fly fishig guys say "match the hatch".

[Paydaze7]

yea it will be fresh screened "wetland topsoil" with a lot of organics in it. weve done smaller jobs in harder soil w/ drills but nothing on this scale. im def going to do a bunch of test plots to see who plants the fastest and cleanest. i just spent like $400 on different auger bits, dibbles, bulb planters online so i'll keep yall posted..

[Paul]

Ok Let's look at his post he said "Wetland Planting" Here this means you are planting in wet soil or in the water. It's hard to use power tools in the water! Moving up higher on the bank you get to mesic prairie planting here you have very different soil conditions ranging from wet soils to dry compacted soils again you have problems with erosion control products ranging for simple straw net to high performance TRM's each has it problems penetrating to allow planting. Knives, to blow torches can be used depending on what, where and how the products are placed. Next we have Prairie plugs, they are the hardest to plan for because the difference in planting preparation. Some places allow tilling but others wanting to maintain the ecosystem all ready there don't. So you have to assess the problem as the job progresses and adapt and learn as you go.

[Paydaze7]

i was looking around on the internet the other day and found a picture of a dibble bar.. was like 3 or 4' long with a dibble point. I can't seem to find them anywhere, anyone have any ideas...

[Lanelle]

Check here to see if this suits your needs:
Speedy Dibble

They a couple of models to choose from.

[agla]

There are a lot of images that people get when they hear the word "wetland". In a lot of cases, these are not sopping wet areas that most people thing of when they hear the word.

Most of the wetland design work that I have done has been done in buffers to wetlands rather than in the wetlands themselves. When they have been in actual wetland resource areas, they have been in vegetated wetlands, areas subject to flooding, coastal dunes, and other resources that are not very wet.

In most cases that I worked on the work has to be done because someone is developing or redeveloping within 100' of a wetland. That could mean putting an addition on a hundred year old house that is next to a pond with a lawn that goes to the edge of it. Some towns will require them to give up an equal area of lawn closest to the pond to that of the addition and plant it with native plants to re-establish a vegetated buffer.

I'm sure that there is a lot of variety in wetlands and how they are protected in different areas.

[Paydaze7]

lanelle, i saw that, but thanks for taking the time to show me.. im thinking of something like this

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[Paydaze7]

heres the progress on the job so far. the spec's called for 25% saturation before planting so we used our hydroseeder and dumped a ton of water on the topsoil. between that and the fresh soft topsoil i actually bought rake handles that had a metal collar at the end. broke through the straw blankets and made a perfect hole.. it was a lot faster than everything else we tried. i think in the one pic thats close to 40k plugs planted so far, the project is close to a mile long.. second pic is some of my guys doing the uplands planting, thanks for all the replies before....

[VoodooChile]

Is that a hammer I see in your employee's hand? I would definitely be firing up some new gas-powered augurs for this project!!!

[Paydaze7]

yea the hammer was to get the spike in the ground a little deeper for this one variety.. i have a few tanaka gas drills and they were much slower then our current method..

Originally Posted by VoodooChile

Is that a hammer I see in your employee's hand? I would definitely be firing up some new gas-powered augurs for this project!!!

[Greensmith]

Isn't the spike going to compact the soil? It looks pretty bad already. The labor on this project must be insane.

[Paydaze7]

a little bit but no so bad, the soil is super loose/soft in 95% of the project.. some areas in the last pic w/ my guys working someone did some donuts with a car and messed it up pretty good... the labor is nuts, more so the costs being i am a union shop!

Originally Posted by Greensmith

Isn't the spike going to compact the soil? It looks pretty bad already. The labor on this project must be insane.

[Greensmith]

Originally Posted by Paydaze7

a little bit but no so bad, the soil is super loose/soft in 95% of the project.. some areas in the last pic w/ my guys working someone did some donuts with a car and messed it up pretty good... the labor is nuts, more so the costs being i am a union shop!

I was wondering about the vehicle traffic when I saw all the traffic cones along the planting area. That parking lot area is going to be a recurring issue I bet. You are union? Is that a clause in taking state contracts?

[Paydaze7]

yea they have no curbing or anything to stop people from driving off the edge of pavement.. we are union because the unions put in their last barganing agreement that any union GC must use union subs.. so we had to go union or stop doing all the govt work since 99.9% of all the gcs are union themselves...

Originally Posted by Greensmith

I was wondering about the vehicle traffic when I saw all the traffic cones along the planting area. That parking lot area is going to be a recurring issue I bet. You are union? Is that a clause in taking state contracts?