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06-07-2005, 10:58 PM
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short a yard?
I am having one of those years that If the job calls for 60 or
even 8 yards of mulch I am either short a yard or trying to find
areas to lose 2yds. Isn't it frustrating when you are short
that tiny bit? 
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06-07-2005, 11:16 PM
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Ranger
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Yes!
I always go a touch heavy and bring some back home with me.
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06-07-2005, 11:25 PM
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You reminde me of the time I almost got my a$$ kicked by a concrete mixer operator. I used to work for a concrete form company during the off seasons back in the day. Anyway, we were working off Cape pouring a foundation for a guy that used to work for a concrete company about an hour away from the site. He insisted that we use that company because they were going to give him a discount. Well, the boss and I were left to finish the pour when we ran a yard short. The boss recalculated the mix to check his order and found it checked out.
An hour later, the last yard shows up and the mixer driver knew my boss was pissed. He asked me to sign the paper, so he did not have to deal with my boss.
As I was about to sign it, the driver said "just sign any name, it does not really matter". This was in the late 80's when the New England Patriots were winning one or two games a year. I signed "John Stephens". I asked thedriver if he knew who John Stephens was. He said no. I told him that he was the Patriots running back and is always a yard short, too. I had to run quickly which I could back then.
When I told my boss why the guy chased me, he had a good laugh.
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06-07-2005, 11:26 PM
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I agree with JW...we always say we can lose it or take it home, but there is nothing worse than being short of mulch, rocks, groundcover.....you name it.
I'm surprised that our grand old government has not come up with specs for mulch CU yds as they have for pot size.
We got a delivery of mulch the other day and the guy said it was 55 yards.....well, we know our bucket is 1/2 yard level and we only got 34 yards out of the load and it was dumped on pavement so no residual on the ground. Fortunately he did not have a bill with him or I would have written him a check, so he will be getting paid for 34.
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06-07-2005, 11:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by jwholden
Yes!
I always go a touch heavy and bring some back home with me.
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So do I jw but this year we are coming up a yard short or
way too mulch! 
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06-08-2005, 12:43 AM
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If there were one position I'd love to have a guy fill in for me, it'd be as an estimator. I constantly underestimate labor and materials on installation jobs. Don't know how I do it, but I almost always do.
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06-08-2005, 12:52 AM
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It's called optimism, and it doesn't come cheap.
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06-08-2005, 01:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by VoodooChile
It's called optimism, and it doesn't come cheap.
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I lost you there. ??
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06-08-2005, 03:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by VoodooChile
It's called optimism, and it doesn't come cheap.
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Ha, ha, ha.................Very good.......Excellent 
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06-08-2005, 03:59 PM
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That has been happening to me with sod this year.......I am finding that I am constantly 8 - 12 strips short.
Up untill this year. I have been dead on the money....only thing thrown away was a couple hand fulls of scrap.
Top soil, compost I am pretty good.....was very good till this year.....This year we are always a little extra........One job I had to take back 2.5 yards back to the nursery, that one was totaly my fault........other than that....we are throwing 1 - 3 wheel barrows in the beds.
Mulch?...........well. I think this year I am estimating higher. Jobs of 3 yards I have extra, so we just add to what we have done. Or if it is the color for my home.......that is where it will go. 5 yards and up we have left over. 30 or more yards that I am estimating we tend to be about 10 - 15% less in the quantity used.
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06-10-2005, 12:36 PM
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Voodoo,
I got a chuckle out of that. I can relate. I can do that in a couple of hours. Ya right!
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07-18-2005, 09:53 PM
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I have been doing a good bit of gravel and cynder installs lately, and I am finding that it is best to *err* on the heavy side. nothing like running short and have to waste 2 hours going back to the quarry and getting the little bit you need. but it's also a problem to have a bunch left over that you can't use on another job real quick.
I have found that going by the "2, 3, 1." system works well. measure 2 times, do the math 3 times, order the material 1 time. 
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