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03-10-2006, 12:04 PM
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At the jobsite and gotta take a leak
I was reading the post about paying for lunch and of course started wondering about personal intake and output. I see all types of trades crews out at the jobsite and no porta-john in sight. Out here in Northern Arizona, VERY few outfits only in new developments provide this service to their employees. Since I don't have employees, one person can be discrete in taking a leak at a jobsite. Worst case is that I have a urine bottle in the truck. I wouldn't consider knocking on the client's door asking to use the bathroom. So, what can you do? And have you be caught in the act by client, neighbor, or passerby? So far I haven't been called on it.
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03-10-2006, 01:19 PM
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State law requires us in Oregon to have portable toilets on every job site.
We just build it in as a cost. Cheaper than going off site, and certainly more professional than the bushes. Each job pays $ 100 which is one moths rent .
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03-10-2006, 01:30 PM
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I want to make a pre-emptive post here - I'd like this thread to not turn into a "this is where I've peed" thread. Thanks in advance.
If we have to leave the site, we do. Clients will often allow us the use of their home, but we seldom do.
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03-10-2006, 03:12 PM
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Porta Johns a cheap. When i get into bigger jobs with employees i will rent them.
You will be suprised that only the big national home builders in my area get johns on there job site. There is not 1 local contractor that gets them on the new construction sites in my town.
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03-10-2006, 04:22 PM
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Porta potties look professional and will serve as a jobsite office for posting such usefull information as all that OSHA crap we get inundated with. Just tape the thing to the inside of the door and you are compliant. If you want to brain wash while taking care of business, you can also place company rules and expectations, or those items you train and retrain, when a person is sitting there what else can they do un less they provide their own reading materials. It's a great way to educate and take care of business all in one shot.
Generally speaking, it's a bad idea to enter a persons home, even if they offer. Imagine the time that a rare antique disappears, or, maybe the lady or daughter of the house wanted some other business to be taken care of and even if you decline the offer, the liability could shift toward you. If you don't ever enter, it's alot harder to point the finger of blame and your job will run smoother.
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03-10-2006, 04:26 PM
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Yup - that's the reason we decline. People will often offer to leave the house open when they're at work - we always tell them to lock it up as they normally would.
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03-11-2006, 12:53 AM
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Being largely maintenance, we drive by donut shops and gas stations all day so we're always near a washroom. For those that rent them, how much are those port-a-potties? Like how much $/week?
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03-11-2006, 05:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Stonehenge
Yup - that's the reason we decline. People will often offer to leave the house open when they're at work - we always tell them to lock it up as they normally would.
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That has also been our approach
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03-11-2006, 11:18 PM
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here if there is a building permit for the job, there are no inspections unless there is a porta-john on site. mobile homes are the only exception. We usually find a wooded area and venture deep within or go to a service station. most times only one or the other is feasable.
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03-15-2006, 06:02 PM
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Dave what do you do take with you from site to site?
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03-15-2006, 06:06 PM
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oops I mean Dale SO SORRY
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03-15-2006, 06:15 PM
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Treat it just like a dumpster - call the service to come pick it up, have them deliver a new one to the next site.
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03-15-2006, 06:23 PM
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On extended projects, I can have 3 units out. We have one at our shop, one that we carry on a single axle trailer to 1 - 3 day jobs, and if we need another one, the company usually can get one that afternoon or next morning. Our maintenance guys are never more than 3 miles from one of our other sites, so they can stop any time and are so instructed.
One time charge per unit of delivery $ 25, and $ 75 per month after that. If I buy the unit, it costs me $ 39 per month for service.
I actually make money, as I charge each job $ 75 to $ 100 even if it is a day or two.
I really can not understand how any company that considers themselves professional, and who cares about their employee's comfort, and the client perception does not have one on job sites.
If OSHA comes out, (which they never do) its a $ 500 fine per day if you don't have one. Just makes sense to me.
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03-16-2006, 07:27 PM
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Quote:
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If OSHA comes out, (which they never do) its a $ 500 fine per day if you don't have one. Just makes sense to me.
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Never heard of that before. Is that the case here in Ontario? If so, there sure are a lot of landscapers (myself included) not complying.
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04-07-2006, 12:33 AM
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So you pull up with an old trailer with a port pooper strapped on and it has to sit in the street?..... I can see the people timing each guy as he goes in there and wondering if they are paying for that time. just makes me chuckle thinking about it.
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