Hello all we desperately need another truck. I would love to go out and buy a new 5 ton dump but we've been spending money like crazy. So I found a 91 international dump in mint shape, I think its to old and would hate to even have it in or fleet, but on the other hand there work trucks and some last forever. Whats everyone think??
I drive a '93 I4700 with a DT360 and Allison Automatic. It runs like a top, if a bit slow because it does not have overdrive.
My only caution on an older truck is you have to be ready for higher than normal maintenance bills. The annual inspection on my truck runs a minimum or $1500 and was $4000 this year. You will end up losing some time, and money, to the occasional water pump malfunction or something like that. A tire for a truck like that runs around $300. Six tires, well, you do the math.
If the truck runs good, you can afford some down time here and there, and have 2-4,000 per year for maintenance I say go for it.
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Heavy truck parts haven't changed much over the years, outside the engine it's pretty much the same technology as from years ago. A well maintained older truck can be every bit as or sometimes even more reliable than a newer model. The only downside I can think of is a higher tare weight, older trucks tend to be heavier.
i just spoke with the fella tonight and the truck has 380,000km on her. he swearers it in great shape for the year and has had no serious problems with it. Ive seen the pics it looks ok from what i can see?
I'm not sure though I'm nervous to be getting into a truck that old, check it out
Looks good to me....then again...maybe I'm comparing it to the dumptruck my wife's grandpa drives around once in awhile. I think it's like a 1940 model and still does the job but looks like total hell.
Noticed it's in Toronto area. Depending on where you live, you may be familiar that a truck that old would have many salty winters behind it. Check the body and frame for rust. A perfectly running truck with bodywork issues will not pass inspection here, and body work can be costly.
Just got a look at the truck and my first impression is the box is to small. I have a 1993 Inter. truck that I bought in Dec 2001 for $20,000.00 with 110,000 miles on it. It is an 8-9 ton dump and has been a very good truck up to this year. I had to have my engine completely overhauled as I was getting coolant in the engine oil, the cost $9200.00. Your truck has to many miles on it, I would keep looking. No one can tell you if you might run into serious engine problems shortly down the road, but the mechanics I talked with say that diesel engines are designed to be overhauled at least once in there lives, plan on it. Mine was done at 130,000 miles and they say it will run another 130,000 miles, if the body holds up, it was a good investment.
Looking at the wheelbase and low profile tires on that truck, I'm willing to bet it started life as a delivery van and was converted to a dump after it was retired from that job. What engine and transmission are in it? What is the GVWR? The miles don't bother me, but the pictures do, I don't think this truck was originally specced for dump service.
The 466 is a very good engine, but the 365, not so much. How often and how heavy do you intend to run this dump?
Just an FYI, my buddy had an IH dump with the 466 and ran it nearly 300,000 trouble free miles before he sold it, I know it ran for a number of years more before I lost track of it. While diesel engines are designed to be rebuildable, they aren't necessarily designed to require rebuilding.
we run an International 4700 like the one in your ad photo. Its a 2001 with the 444e, 7.3 engine. Works great, little underpowered on a hill when loaded. Sure they are older trucks but really simple to fix and make you a whole lot more $$$ then a fancy new 3/4 ton tin box. Just my 2 cents.
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