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09-24-2003, 11:21 PM
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Renting a T190 tomorrow
We got to the job site today, after THREE inches of rain yesterday morning, and the 763 wasn't getting d--- for traction. I did what I could but figure this is as good a time as any to try one of those slick compact track loader machines. I'm picking it up tomorrow and looking forward to seeing if they are as good as I've heard.
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09-24-2003, 11:38 PM
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Yeah - let me know how well it worked. I'm in the market for another machine (please no emails dealers - I get enough already...), and have had my eye on a tracked machine.
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09-24-2003, 11:44 PM
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I was thinking about a tractor loader backhoe in the 30-40 hp range as being my next machine. After playing in the slop today my thoughts have changed.
T190, 1900 lb lift capacity, dealer said would run in the mid 30's. I'm curious if a 1900 lb lift tracked machine can lift more than a skidder, it seems they can.
Hope to have some action shots and a stories of how wonderful this machine is tommorow.
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09-25-2003, 08:10 PM
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They gave me a T200 because the T190 was out.
O H M Y GOD!!!
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09-25-2003, 08:31 PM
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You have some action shots?  |
09-25-2003, 09:04 PM
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Please let us see some pictures. Saturday I was supposed to finish a grading job for a new lawn using our Case 1845C. Had to give up because I just couldn't get traction. Didn't sink, just to slippery and couldn't move when pushing soil. Tracks would have saved the day.
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09-25-2003, 09:08 PM
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Hey Dan - I thought you stopped seeding by early September...
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09-25-2003, 09:46 PM
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I usually do but My timing has been scr**** by rain. If it is still to wet at the end of this week for the skidsteer I am going to have to finish this job by hand. (had 3 tandems of soil to go in and I only got 2 in when I started this 3 weeks ago and have been to wet ever since) I am pushing the limits for getting seed established. I have seeded on snow before and it germinates in Spring. Not the best but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.  |
09-25-2003, 10:09 PM
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I sent this PM to a friend, I'll share it with all.
Got lazy today and no photos in the mud, but I'll post some shots of me and my cheesy smile on the machine tommorow. I want to show you the bench I created with a big rock. Perhaps I'm in the running for the biggest stones competition now...
I rented the T200 today and was EXTREMELY impressed. This machine seems perfect for new lawns and moving heavy stuff across lawns.
I had my 763 on the jobsite and all four wheels were spinning in the mud. Brought the T200 up and could push THROUGH some 6" stumps and yank them right out.
I had to move some rocks, probably around a ton, and it was too darn easy. Usually when I try to push them sideways with my 763 pallet forks the wheels turn and it doesn't have the torque. Just kept going with the T200.
I went through about 30 yards of 1/2" screened soil today. NOT ONCE did I have to back blade the pile to get a full scoop, just slowly drive right into the pile. Yes, the dirt was dry and fluffy, but still impressive.
My only concern with this machine is the weight. It weighs in at around 8100 pounds. Add a trailer to that and I'm over the magic 5 tons, though I've never been pulled over by the Dot Police and weighed.
To sum up, everything that was said in the post about tracked machines is true. I know there is no one machine for every job, but one day with this baby and I'm seriosly reconsidering my tractor loader backhoe for a next machine ideas.
For those of you interested, important specs:
73 HP Deutz Diesel
8080 operating weight
5715 tipping load
SAE rated operating capacity 2000 lbs
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09-25-2003, 10:15 PM
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Sounds like the tracked model was a winner. I may have to demo one myself. But that SAE op load seems light. Do you have the option of installing weight kits?
We added about 600# to our lifting capacity by adding that much in weight kits to the back end of our Gehl 6635.
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09-25-2003, 10:24 PM
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Don't really know.
Honestly, I'm not thinking about another machine "right now" but I was blown away at what this thing does, The T200 is a discontinued model and I believe is being replaced by the T250. My mind got to thinking when the fellah who ground the stumps for me said Bobcat is looking to sell it with less than 400 hours.
I know my 763 has a weight kit that adds 100 lbs of carrying capacity. I read somewhere, possibly here, that the way trac loaders are rated is different than skidders. I have no doubt this machine would be ok unloading full pallets of pavers from a truck.
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09-27-2003, 12:21 AM
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Jeff,
SAE Operating load is 50% of tipping load for skidders with tires, 35% of tipping load for crawlers. For the tipping load of the T200 to compare to that of the a skidder with tires you would use the number 2850 lbs. How does that sound?
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09-27-2003, 12:27 AM
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Some action shots:
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09-27-2003, 12:29 AM
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Next one:
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09-27-2003, 12:34 AM
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I dumped some piles of mulch in this bed. I didn't turn alot but note the minimal ground disturbance where the treads were. Try that with a skidder.
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