[jwholden]

I called a company called Accuscreed today www.accuscreed.com to check out a screeding system they have (I ordered the starter kit to give it a shot). While talking to the rep there the guy mentioned a company called Pavetech www.pavetech.com because he had some ideas of tools to use with their screed rails. Looks like some pretty cool toys!

Anyway, I thought I'd mention it and see what everyone thought.

[Stonehenge]

It's funny you mention that - I've been trying to work with my guys to develop a new base prep system using those 'Y' pegs - but I want to have a system that doesn't need cleats on the screed board.

[jwholden]

The guy said that he thought the sand pull pro with the curb kit might be the cat's meow with his system http://www.pavetech.com/newtools/curbKit.shtm Honestly, I think the Y pegs are great for patios, just not sure how they would work with walks. I install 90% of my walks with curves and am still trying to figure out how I could curve a straright peice of screed pipe around the curves.

BTW, if you were building a patio with the Y-pegs the guy said you could intall the pipes above the final grade and then create a T with 2 x 4's to screed the base. Just rip the part of the T that will be doing the screeding to the neccesary height for the base.

I'm looking forward to trying it out but frankly not sure what the results will be.

[PSUscaper]

I just ordered a set!!!!

I think the accuscreed guy is going to owe groundsx a trip to a very nice, warm tropical place!

Ok,

Here's one of the solutions I've been thinking of for walkways............and perhaps......setting base for retaining walls.

http://www.metalforms.com/ply_flatwork4.html

Check out the curved, plastic forms..........stakes are set BELOW the form.........forms can bend to a 3' radius.............

Think about it.........setting these up, using a "t-cut" board with a 1 inch drop to screed/level out your base, then just running you screed board across the top to set your sand...........

Hell, if the price is two bad, you may be able to just leave them in as edging also! (have to get a price quote first though)

steve

[Tim]

Hi everyone. I am very excited to join in this forum. I am an old concrete guy who is just starting to learn the trade of setting pavers. Everything I know has been from hearsay, but I would like everyone to check out a website that shows a pretty nice paver job that the contractor used the AccuScreed/ MegaScreed product lines on. He set over 100,000 pavers in under 3 weeks, using just 15 guys; and they had to mortar their joints! The contractor was David Boswell of Creation Designs, working under the general contractor T.A. Loving at the North Carolina State University football stadium. Check it out at goallinedrive.com Once you are on the site, go into the photo albums for June '02(pics 19,20 & 21), and July '02(pics 9and 10). Let me know what you all think. Tim

[Stonehenge]

I'll take Maui, please.

Tim, welcome aboard!

Do I understand that the pavers were laid over sand, but had mortared joints? That would seem to be asking for trouble as soon as a heavy load is applied.

[Tim]

Thankyou for the welcome. I do believe that their finnished elevation was indeed completed with the aid of a minor sand layer. Below that, they had installed a significant crushed rock sub-base. I really do not know the reason that the stadium had wanted their joints mortared. Would this promote a frost situation to occur? Tim

[Stonehenge]

Possibly - the location of installation might never see a frost, I'm not sure. But even if they don't, if a heavy load is applied on a rigid surface that is sitting above a flexible one, that rigid surface might fail. I would think that if they were going the rout of mortar, they would just mortar the pavers to a slab of concrete.

[Tim]

That does make alot of sense. Maui definately would be nice! I have never been their! Still stranded in Iowa as the song goes Haven't quite figure out how to use the smiley faces & everything on hear yet, so please bare with me. This jobsite was the stadium's concourse area. Most of the traffic over it would consist of people entering & exiting the seating and concession stands. Is concrete used as a base for pavers often? It would seem to be cost prohibitive to me. Tim

[Stonehenge]

You're right - it is seldom used. But I think with mortared joints (a rigid pavement), you need a rigid base.

All of our paver work is flexible - dry-laid pavers over crushed stone base.

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[Tim]

Hey thanks for the tip!! I hope you got my email! Tim

[Rex Mann]

We are bidding a job with 52 10 foot wide paver crosswalks. Each crosswalk will have two concrete headers to restrain the pavers. We are bidding it using the Sandpull Pro with the curb setup. We think the labor savings will more than pay for the unit many times over.

BTW: I just got the Pavetech price sheet in the mail yesterday. And, they have some new products.

Peace,

Rex