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02-12-2007, 07:44 PM
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F350 vs. Chevy 3500
Guys I need help - I will be purchasing a 2007 Crew Cab p/up with a diesel engine. The problem is that i can't decide between Chevy or Ford.
Here are the specs:
-2007 Crew Cab
-Diesel
-Auto
-4x4
-8' bed
I currently have an F450 PSD, 550 PSD, F650, a suburban and a Ram 2500 - brand loyalty wasn't my thing.
They are both priced around $35,000 - $37,000.00 keep in mind these are basic work trucks with vinyl and rubber floors.
I've had repair issues with all of the brands, the Dodges have tranny issues, the burban is a 95' so its just normal issues like starter, alt, fuel pump. The F450 PSD has had (3) clutch master cylinders and a trans @ 85K. The 550 has had the standard 7.3 L powerstroke oil leaks and thats about it. The 650 had an injector pump at 30K and head gasket at 43K.
I am aware that trucks will always have the potential for breakdowns. I just wanted some feedback from truck owners who are running the Duramax and the 6.0l Powerstroke Diesel.
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02-12-2007, 10:29 PM
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I won't be buying another Ford for quite some time. My '01 F-350 and '02 F-550 have been nothing but trouble for me. The 6.0 PowerStroke has been problematic at best, and there have been major issues with the Ford automatic. If you're looking for an '07, move quickly because the '08s are now being built and shipped with a new (and unproven) twin turbo engine design.
Chevy has all the bugs worked out of the Isuzu diesel and the Allison automatic is tough to beat. I don't know if the '07 emission requirements have effected that engine much, it was the reason Ford went with a new design.
I bought a '92 C3500 dump as a spare truck with 180,000 miles on it. That truck has been VERY reliable for me in spite of its age and mileage. I've been a Ford guy for a long time, but latest experience with them has been much less positive than I ever anticipated. I don't have personal experience with the Duramax, but my buddy has 2 of them in his paving business and they have been flawless. My choice would be the Chevy's.
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02-13-2007, 08:16 AM
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Thanks for the reply. I hear ya, the 07's are moving fast and they have incredible incentives. I will be buying something toward the end of the week. I am leanng toward Chevy now. They just need to get a little closer to the price of the Ford. The 08 Ford's are supposed to be "bug" free since they hired a new CEO to run the Powerstroke Program. Ford has already spent 50mil. in Powerstroke repairs. So far its Chevy- 1 Ford- 0 - I need some more posts
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02-13-2007, 11:05 AM
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I vote for Chevy....little biased though, as we have six.
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02-13-2007, 12:32 PM
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We have two chevy 3500's and a 5500. All have the Duramax/ Allison All have been very reliable. One 3500 has had the fuel pump replaced twice under warrantee. Othere than that We haven't had any other troubles.
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02-13-2007, 12:40 PM
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Thats: Chevy -3
Ford - 0
thanks guys, doing even more research i am finding that u can get a slightly upgraded 3500 for 1500.00 more than the basic work truck and get cloth seat p/w, p/l, and a nicer trim package. The XLT base jumps the truck almost 5K!!
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02-13-2007, 09:32 PM
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1 more vote chevy.
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02-17-2007, 10:04 AM
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I bought the Chevy Yesterday. That Duramax / Allison combo is amazing!
Thanks to all who submitted replies. My sympathy goes to Ford Motor Co.
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02-17-2007, 11:31 AM
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For this work
I won't buy anything other than Ford.
However Chevy is just short of giving their product away.......$ wise Chevy is probably the better choice.
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02-18-2007, 10:16 AM
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Good choice!! (Chevy) Know a couple of "diehard" ford owners who swear they wont own another!! That will be the way i go wen its time
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02-18-2007, 02:26 PM
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02-18-2007, 02:40 PM
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Like i said before I am a Ford Powerstroke owner and a Cummins owner. The duramax in my opinion is a better engine. The engineering is evident, the power is insane and the reliability has proven itself.
After it was all said and done. The final purchase price was 38,200. @ 0%. The vehicle is complete with p/w, p/l, p/m, rear defrost, alarm, keyless entry, tinted windows. Almost to nice to be a work truck.
The bottom line is this. You are getting more for your money in this case of trucks. Comparing apples to apples you can get a GM about $2k cheaper than a Ford. With the reliability of Ford and the cost savings of Chevy it was a no brainer. I will always remember this comparison whenever I take the strokes back to the dealer to fix another oil leak. I am sure they will appreciate it even more when I leave in a Chevy.
However, let me tell you - the p/up and smaller F series are the ones that turned me. The full size F650 and F750 are good trucks. We have had our problems with our 650, but that was more a Cummins deal than Ford. The large trucks are work horses and qualified to handle the abuse of landscape construction. I recommend the CAT engine above all.
When it comes down to it the subscribers of this site greatly influenced my decision. This vehicle will be abused and probably out of the fleet in four - five years. Whichever truck we would have bought would have be treated the same. Hopefully, the new 08 fords will have all there crap together.
Thanks all.
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02-18-2007, 04:26 PM
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Good for you, you made the right choice. My F-350 costs more to run than it makes me. Have stuck about $21,000 into it by now and it still needs work. EVERYTHING goes wrong with this truck and I really bekieve that someone must have met their maker in it at one time or another.
On the other hand, my Chevy just turned 222,000 miles (1999)
and I have replaced the fuel pump. Just getting broken in.
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03-16-2007, 03:43 AM
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It still amazes me how loyal Ford buyers are. ( I'm not bashing here only stating facts). From various sites ever since the 6.0 came out, nothing but problems, heck the first month of 2006 had like 35 recalls, on the Ford, yet people still buy Ford, even after they had a buy back from Ford for a bad engine.
On my Ford The air came out the AC vents at 72 degrees, and I was told by Ford, that is within spec., that was in the drive of the dealership. Along with other problems, I quit Ford.
I drove it across the street and traded it on a GMC, and the temps are coming out at 45 degrees.
125k, and I've only put oil and fuel into it, and never been back to the dealership.
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03-16-2007, 10:04 AM
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So far so good with the Chevy. NO complaints what so ever. Its been great Ive been pulling an 18' eq. trailer and a skid steer around while our F550 sits in the shop getting warranty work done once again. Its amazing how much time that things spends in the shop. I love driving to the Ford dealer in my chevy to drop off one of our PSD P.O.S.
I am happy with my purchase and I would recommend this truck to anyone.
Thanks everyone
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