[Stonehenge]

BJR - even better, have them contact me - I can set up a section of this site just for your association.

Jeff

[PSUscaper]

Hello,

the wet jointing thing kind of raised my suspicion....

I got a Cd a while back from a manufacturer of paver installers(those buggies that install 'sheet's of brick at a time'

Throughout the movie, they showed them using a floor sweeper like rotary broom to sweep wet sand into the joints.

This company was based out of germany I believe. (in case your curious, www.optimas.de/Englisch/index.html


I think it may be a European thing to sweep wet sand in or something........I guess it works, but dam if it doesn't look messy!

steve

[dan deutekom]

I almost always wet sweep because I find we get more sand into the joints and I don't have to wait for the sand to dry to get it into the joints. I am not so weather dependant and it is great on hot days! It really isn't messy once you get use to it. One man uses the broom to move the sand and one man uses the hose to wet it as it is being sweeped in. Find it faster than dry sweeping as well because the water carries the sand down into the joints.

[Stonehenge]

That's interesting - we used bagged sand, so it's always dry, but if we're sweeping and it starts to rain, we break out the hose and water a lot, to help the sand flow.

[dan deutekom]

I very seldom use bagged sand. We get our sweep in sand in triaxle dumps. The stuff we get is very fine with no stones. We found it to be of better grade than the bagged sand from Unilock. The only problem is that it always seems to get used for other purposes because people always take the "nicest sand" when they were loading the truck.

[BJR]

Here in Australia all the manufacturers insist you sweep the sand in dry, leave a film of about 3mm on the pavers and pass a plate over it. Sweep again and the pass a plate over it again. The plate vibrates the sand into the joints. I only wet sweep the sand in if the pavers and sand are damp and have no chance of drying, but only after 2 passes of the plate.

[Tim]

I have always tried to be inventative. I think one of my idea failures might just be a workable altenative here. I tried to make knee boards once for concrete out of basically nylon cutting boards. I was sick and tired of constantly having to replace them because they would go unwashed and would then rip my pour's surface. The ones I made worked too good. They didn't stick at all!! Nearly broke my back side stepping out on them. Couldn't get any traction no matter what I did to the nylon. As I remember, I think I only had about $20 in the two boards. You probably could attach some to the bottom of the compacter and just leave them for the sub-grade as well. Just a thought, might not work. Tim

[BJR]

might work for the pavers, but not for the sub-grade. The pad reduces the compaction.

[Tim]

That makes sense. Are you one of the contractors that isn't using sand for your final sub-grade layer too? Just curious. Tim

[BJR]

No, I think that Stonehenge is alone in that way of thinking.

In Australia, where I live, there are standards for constructing landscapes. If you deviate from the standards and your job fails, the independent consultant that will do the report on the job, if it gets that far, will more than likely blaim the construction methods and order the job be re-done according to the correct construction techniques.

[Stonehenge]

I'm not afraid to walk the path alone.....

[BJR]

Doesn't it get a little scary out there in the depths of darkness by yourself?

Or can you see a light in the distance?

[Tim]

From what I understand, you Aussies have so much gold in your soil, that that is what you you use for finnish grades. LOL Tim

[BJR]

Just the impure stuff. Not the good gold. We use this to make our shovels.

[Tim]

Corn is pretty much the only gold here in Iowa. LOL Tim