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09-15-2004, 06:35 PM
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Paver cart
Hello!!!
This is my first post although I have been monitoring this site for about 2 months. Great exchange!
Question is: Why don't more contractors use paver carts? Most in my area still are handling pavers way to much. Loading them into a wheelbarrow or worse, carrying them to the laying surface by hand.  I know that the paver carts can be expensive, but so is the wasted labor and time of over handling.
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09-15-2004, 08:33 PM
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1. Skidsteer
2. large number of pavers/tumbled pavers aren't banded
3. the thing is 1k!
For some jobs, it is useful, but 90% of the time I find it possible to have the pavers dropped close enough to the site so that you can move them just as quick by hand. Also, I run a toro dingo, which works much better at moving full bands.
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09-15-2004, 11:05 PM
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Welcome aboard Jake! Good to have you here.
I tried a paver cart about 14-15 years ago. Worked OK, but not if the pavers didn't have squared sides all the way around.
For us, most projects allow access with skid steer, so we set the pallets at the edge of the paver area and work.
Plus the cart is big and heavy, and one more thing to have to load and unload at the job site.
Now I'm sure they've improved the design since I first tried one, and they are more accomodating of pavers other than Hollandstone, but with the other reasons above, just doesn't seem like the right move for us.
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09-15-2004, 11:12 PM
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A paver cart is useful in about 2% of the jobs I do. If there is an up hill rise, soft ground, rough ground or a weak labourer it just isn't worth the hassle. Most of the other times there is skid steer access or the pavers are unloaded right next to the work. I would just as soon use a wheelbarrow. I think I can move a section of pavers faster in a wheelbarrow than with a cart.
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09-16-2004, 12:58 AM
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I have one for sale if you know anyone who wants it. The manufacturers out here lace the corners together unlike Unilock who bundles sections on pallets. Paver carts won't work here, and are too wide to get into most back yards. Forks for the machine or load into Army edition dump trucks and wheel to the back yard.
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09-16-2004, 10:03 AM
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Thanks for the insite. In my area all of the manufacturers band pavers. I have tried several different makes of carts and found that some will also pick-up unbanded pavers as well (tumbled too). Bill - I do know of someone looking for one. e-mail me with the details. Thanks agin for the response.
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09-16-2004, 12:20 PM
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Here in Phoenix, most tract homes have a 4-foot gate as the only access to the backyard. We would love to use the carts, however, as Bill said, they are bundled in such a way as to make a cart useless.
Some distributors and contractors are trying to get Belgard (in Phoenix) to re-configure the packaging so we can use a paver cart but, I do not see that happening anytime soon.
Peace,
Rex
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09-16-2004, 03:21 PM
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Rex- a neat trick is to get a 6 or 8 foot piece of roller conveyor and set the paver cart on it, slide it thru the gate and wheel away.  What is wrong with the way your pavers are configured on the pallets?
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09-16-2004, 07:06 PM
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I have one, but I've only used it twice. I've got a skid steer that I can place the full pallets where I need them, then move them as needed.
Most times my job sites are too rough during the construction phase for the cart to be useful. I've seen the carts demonstrated on pavement where they work great, but who has that at the job site?
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09-16-2004, 07:48 PM
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Here in Ontario, Unilock manufactures a paver cart that rotates the section 90 degrees so it can fit through narrow gates. It actually works pretty slick. I don't own one but have borrowed one a few times.
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09-16-2004, 11:32 PM
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Jake,
The pavers are not banded. As you tilt the section back the top half comes up and the bottom stays, then the top half falls and makes a huge mess.
Also, some multi-piece pavers, which are packaged on the same pallet, overlap the layer underneath. Does not work.
Peace,
Rex
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09-17-2004, 09:56 AM
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Thanks Rex! Sounds like the way our manufacturers are packaging thier pallets works ok. Thanks to all.
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