Ground Trades Xchange - a landscaping forum

Go Back   Ground Trades Xchange - a landscaping forum > Landscape Services > Landscaping Tools and Equipment
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2004, 11:12 PM
jwholden's Avatar
Ranger
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Southwest ct
USDA Zone 6
Posts: 1,742
jwholden is on a distinguished road
questn

I was driving the highway today and a 3-5 year old chevy went by (pre-duramax). When this guy shifted gears there was a plume of nasty black smoke that you could barely see through. Otherwise there was no sign of exhaust at all. I know diesels smoke once in a while but this seemed extreme.

What could it be?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 03-25-2004, 12:31 AM
dan deutekom's Avatar
Gold Oak Network Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
USDA Zone 5
Posts: 1,103
dan deutekom is on a distinguished road
Injectors set a little rich or worn.
__________________
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Beer in one hand - Nacho's in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming : Woo Hoo, what a ride!





Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 03-26-2004, 10:10 AM
scl's Avatar
scl scl is offline
Gold Oak Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Dixon, IL
USDA Zone 5
Posts: 388
scl is on a distinguished road
Program bumped up and boost cranked up. Lots of little tricks to pump mega horses out of them diesels. Too cool!
__________________
If there were 3 of me, I'd only be 2 weeks behind!
Do I stay or do I grow now?
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 03-26-2004, 05:11 PM
Gold Oak Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
USDA
Posts: 1,882
Bill Schwab is an unknown quantity at this point
Several things could be going on here. Since black smoke indicates unburned fuel, it could be a plugged air filter, which, allows pleanty of flow when at lower RPM's, or it could be he juiced it and put in larger injectors. The last thing is dependant on what GM engine it was. If it was a 6.2, when the pumps got worn, they passed alot of fuel at high RPM's under load. If it was a 6.5, the front pump gears would wear causing port timing to be slightly off. All you need to be with a diesel is 1/2° off on timing and you could either predetonate, or run too rich. If an computer was incorporated into the mix, it could be a simple elctronics glitch that would cost you $1,000.00.

Lastly, if the valve guides are so sloppy that the valve stays open too long, or allows too much juice in without giving the compression the engine needed to fire the fuel, that could also make the truck burn black. The first thing one should do is pull compression, which in any of those engines should be a minimum of 380lbs.

Diesels are very easy to work on, just black dirty and messy, and require absolute precise timing. The largest cause for this type of symptom with today's fuels is in the way they extract the sulpher to make sulpherless fuels. ( it is best for the engine to run off road fuels and pray you don't get caught by the IRS police!) They use a process that freeze drys the fuel, and it leaves microscopic particles in the fuel, causing premature wear on the pump and injectors. Since pumps are made under strict tolerances, and I mean like hundreds of thousands to the inch, it does not take an aweful lot to throw one out of whack.
__________________
Bill Schwab
In the year 1491, if the Naturescape Landscape Company did the site work in Pisa, Italy, they would not be calling it the "leaning" tower.

Encinitas, Ca. 92024

www.naturescapelandscape.com

Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Black cedar question cutntrim Softscaping | Landscaping 6 05-18-2006 09:21 AM
Benefit of Diesel Mowers Walker Mowing Landscaping Tools and Equipment 6 02-04-2006 10:13 AM
2007 EPA diesel regs. johnkeegan Landscaping Tools and Equipment 0 12-30-2005 03:58 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:49 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.1.0
Copyright ©2003-2007 Ground Trades Xchange, LLC