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09-09-2008, 08:33 PM
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Back to the subject.....
I think that one of the issues with photoimaging is that our subconscience processes a lot of what it sees based on familiarity. Adding a familiar shrub influences how we perceive scale.
When we, or the client, or even Hoosier looks at that image, are we perceiving the actual scale of the house or the scale of the house as it is influenced by our familiarity with the shrubs.
Can I figure out the rough dimensions of that house with ease? Can you or Hoosier? Hopefully, the house was measured and the layout was made based on those measurements. It would not be easy to place images of plants on a house and determine what fits based on how the image looks.
I just finished the fifth phase of a renovation plan of a 30+ year old condo complex. I'm 25 miles away and only have weekends and evenings, so a lot of decisions are made by looking at reference photos. I measure everything out first then draw an existing conditions plan using the photos to confirm what is or is not there. Then I go back and confirn the conditions on the plan match the site.
I have been doing this for a very long time and it is still very difficult to judge distances, wall lengths, and everything else in undoctored pictures. I could not rely on photos alone to plan a planting with accuracy.
I'm wondering if many people just wing it when doing photoimaging, or if most take the time to do a scaled plan first.
Then there is the all important question of how big are the plants going to be at the time of planting. Does it make sense to show images of how the plants will look ten years down the road, three years down the road, or at the time of planting?
So, how long are those walls?
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09-11-2008, 09:02 AM
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now you're going to make be drag out the design again? 24' garage, 19 comming straight at you, then 20 going to the East.
We'll be back in a few weeks to start adding more.
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09-11-2008, 02:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by agla
I'm wondering if many people just wing it when doing photoimaging, or if most take the time to do a scaled plan first.
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Whenever I'm on a site measuring, I try to note stuff like whether or not it's an oversized brick, and the width of the lap on the siding. It never fails- I'll be well into creating the 3D model of the screen porch when it hits me that I never measured the height of a critical window. So, time to count brick courses.
I guess you could do that in a pinch for the colorforms- er, digital imaging stuff.
since I clearly won't be starting the first tangent on this thread- Hoosier, how have those worked out for you? Some of the contractors I draw for keep asking me about them. While I've never been a fan, if they work...
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09-11-2008, 06:20 PM
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If I DID do any photo-imaging, I would have to have a scaled design in my hand. I just feel like these photos need to be viewed from another angle besides straight ahead, like standing atop a ladder. Maybe that would give me a little more sense of the depth of plantings.
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09-11-2008, 09:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fine Edge
If I DID do any photo-imaging, I would have to have a scaled design in my hand. I just feel like these photos need to be viewed from another angle besides straight ahead, like standing atop a ladder. Maybe that would give me a little more sense of the depth of plantings.
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It is hard to judge depth, distance, and also plant type. I try to used plot drawing to discribe these, but they always end up pulling the colored photo to the top, asking questions.
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09-11-2008, 10:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by papercutter
Whenever I'm on a site measuring, I try to note stuff like whether or not it's an oversized brick, and the width of the lap on the siding. It never fails- I'll be well into creating the 3D model of the screen porch when it hits me that I never measured the height of a critical window. So, time to count brick courses.
I guess you could do that in a pinch for the colorforms- er, digital imaging stuff.
since I clearly won't be starting the first tangent on this thread- Hoosier, how have those worked out for you? Some of the contractors I draw for keep asking me about them. While I've never been a fan, if they work...
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I've had to count brick layers several times!!! I end up taking 10-20 pictures in some cases just for reminders.
The imaging has worked out very well for me. Sometimes its frustrating because the want to buy it before I get to describe what they're getting.
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09-11-2008, 10:40 PM
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The only thing that struck me was how narrow the grass gets between the bed and the walk. I figure why have such a itty bit when you could just make the bed that much bigger and put in more flowers. Of course it is hard to tell how wide it actually is from the pic.
And where can I get one of those bumperstickers!
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