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Old 05-22-2009, 05:12 PM
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Fence along a retaining wall.

Hello Everyone,

I am having a retaining wall put in and had a question about adding a fence. I would like the fence to be as close to the retaining wall as possible. I have had two landscapers bid on the project. One would like to put sleeves in for the fence posts. The other said since the retaining wall is only four feet tall that we would not need sleeves and the fence company would be able to dig out behind the wall.

I have also had two fence companies come by and one said that they would not need sleeves while the other said he would need sleeves in the the ground right behind the wall.

So I guess I am a little confused as to which way to go. What are your thoughts?

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I don't know your exact situation and am aware of a product that is made for this particular purpose but don't know if that's what's being discussed - that being said, for a small wall and a small fence, I think what the sleeve could buy the installer is ease of installation. Slip the sleeve in while the wall area is all dug out and installation of the fence later would be a snap.
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I don't know your exact situation and am aware of a product that is made for this particular purpose but don't know if that's what's being discussed - that being said, for a small wall and a small fence, I think what the sleeve could buy the installer is ease of installation. Slip the sleeve in while the wall area is all dug out and installation of the fence later would be a snap.
Thanks Stonehenge...is their any set rule of thumb that states that you should or need to put in sleeves. i.e. for the sake of integrity of the retaining wall.
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what kind of retaining wall?
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Thanks Stonehenge...is their any set rule of thumb that states that you should or need to put in sleeves. i.e. for the sake of integrity of the retaining wall.
Not that I'm aware of - the sleeves serve the fence, not the wall, as far as I know.
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what kind of retaining wall?
It is made out of Anchor Highland Stone 6" pieces. So concrete block.
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Not that I'm aware of - the sleeves serve the fence, not the wall, as far as I know.
Cool...Thanks Stonhenge...By the way. Your location takes me back. I went to school at UWGB.

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The sleeves that have the grid that goes into the backfill behind the wall do serve to protect the wall. If you have fence posts with no lateral stabilization, forces on the post can kick out the wall.
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this is the engineered way that i use when we construct a wall knowing a fence will be behind it
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Is that concrete that the post and rebar is embedded into?
I'm thinking 'yes'.
That is certainly going to give lateral stability to prevent pressure on the wall.
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The wall is over 39" one meter high it needs to be engineered and they need to know that a fence in going to be installed next to or inside the the block. Once you have the drawing and details you then know how to build the project.
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