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Old 03-31-2008, 07:37 PM
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help with bull nose

i am biding a project with 1500 sq. ft. of pavers and 345 pcs. of 4x10 bull nose edging.....i have never dont bullnose on a pool coping before and have a couple ways i would do it but i want to throw them out there first....lay the bullnose in a bed of mortar on top of compacted stone and mortar in the 3/8 joint after they set. idead two this maybe total over kill but i have been pondering it....dig a 10" deep trench 9" wide....layer of geo fabric at the bottom of the trench.....4 inch of compacted crushed stone......6" of 4000psi concrete with rebar.....and the put my bull nose in a bed of mortar. See my concern is that since the bull nose will have a 1in overhang i am worried that it will pop up if its only on a bed of mortar on top of compacted stone...please give me any advice..pics anything i need it ...i am lost!
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Old 03-31-2008, 08:03 PM
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Is this a concrete pool or a liner pool? New install or renovation? If it is new, has everything settled around it? If it's existing are you doing the demo? If it's a liner demo, make sure you don't destroy the liner. If it's a concrete demo who's responsible for the tile work / repair and plaster work / repair.

My first suggestion would be to have the pool company do the coping, or get a mason to do it for you either as a sub or just to get the job. There is nothing wrong with having someone else do the work so you can see how it is done and learn that way. Lessons are very expensive in this business, and doing something like pool coping, with no experience, is very risky. It's much better to make less money and learn then lose money and learn the hard way.

Also, when pricing the pool patio make sure that you are thinking about things like diving boards, pool covers and ladders. These need footings and/or grommets which takes time and money to do. There is also a specific type of expansion joint that should be installed between the coping and the patio (I am assuming a colder climate) and this joint also needs to be caulked. Not a big deal, but still time and materials. And finally, there are new building code requirements for grounding swimming pools that you should make sure you understand and know if it is your responsibility or not.

I would really have the pool company do as much as they can and try to just do the pavers and get some plantings out of it. There are a lot of safety and liabilty issues involved with pools that should not be taken lightly.

Sometimes the best projects are the ones you don't get involved in.
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Old 03-31-2008, 08:25 PM
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thanks......i have alot of thinking to do....thanks fot the advice
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We lay ours on a thin layer of cement with appropriate hardeners directly on the pool coping. One man, 2 days usually does it. And thats with cutting near every stone.
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