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02-21-2008, 09:39 AM
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permaloc
Does anyone here use their edge restraints?
I talked to a rep at the CENTS show and he said their
aluminum is stronger and better than plastic---comes
in black or regular.
Not to mention its about $4.00 per section cheaper than
what I'm paying now.
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02-21-2008, 10:37 AM
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I started using the permaloc aluminum about 2 years ago. I've been real happy with it. Cuts and bends reals similar to plastic, and doesn't seem to get that "lean" that plastic sometimes does. Its about 10% higher for me, but it seems worth it and noone else here seems to use it. I like it.
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02-21-2008, 10:42 AM
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I have been using "snap-edge" for the last 10 yrs or so and have been very satisfied with their product, that is up till last season. They have reduced the overall thickness and integrity of their product by 25%. I am looking for a new product that allows me to bend and rebend at will. I don't want a product that kinks. Does permaloc give you this feature?
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02-21-2008, 01:43 PM
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We use permaloc bed edging. It is the best looking alternative to steel. We haven't used their paver edging much, it is not that available here, but we have used it in drip edge applications, separating gravel from lawn. It was good to work with and made straight runs come out SWEET! We used the type that didn't bend, so I don't know how easy that would be, probably just fine, judging that their other products perform well.
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02-21-2008, 05:14 PM
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Eastern,
that's what has me stalling--- can you unkink the stuff especially after a 90degree corner.
Scl,
If you order from the factory you can get it for .99cents a ft on orders under 1200ft
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02-21-2008, 05:22 PM
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It won't be any good after you do a 90. But you can cut it and splice it. But you know what they say. Measure twice...
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02-21-2008, 07:46 PM
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I've had to order mine direct, its the shipping that bumps it up. Seems like it was $35 or $40 to ship 30 sticks, but don't quote me. If you bend it in a 90, it doesn't come back. Thats a plus, no residual stress on the bends. On gradual bends you just cut every other bar, for tighter bends every bar. I think it takes curves well and straights are pretty rigid. I've never seen snap edge or beast edge that was able to come back from a 90 either. When you cut their bars, they get pretty floppy. I like the aluminum, JMO.
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02-21-2008, 09:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathaniel Carr
It won't be any good after you do a 90. But you can cut it and splice it. But you know what they say. Measure twice...
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I used to use snap edge to lay out my curves and now its too flimsy. Thats why I'm asking about if it kinks when you bend it. I am sure I will find an alternate product that is completely flexible without kinking. Just not sure yet which one.
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02-22-2008, 08:57 AM
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I think SCL is wondering how far a bend you're talking about. The product he uses is aluminum, which has very low elasticity, meaning if you crease it, there's no uncreasing it. I use a different brand, also aluminum, and have been using it for years. Bends to a radius of about a foot without a problem and will flex back, but a crease is a crease.
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02-22-2008, 10:44 AM
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Jeff,
do mind telling us what brand you are using?
Pm me if you don't want to post it.
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04-20-2008, 04:34 PM
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Edging, whether alum or plastic, without a frost heave lip will eventually fail in a freeze-thaw climate.
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04-20-2008, 05:46 PM
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well I broke down and bought a box.
So far we really like it.
Only thing I don't like, cant use cutsaws to cut it for the curves.
need metal snips
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