[rock engraver]

has anyone installed these?any idea on material price..
thanks

[LandArts]

If you mean paver circle kits it's not so much the material cost as the labor to lay the circle and cut in around it.

[Stonehenge]

Yup. Much slower than slapping down row after row of herringbone.

[zullo-design]

A good one will go down pretty fast, once you learn the pattern. Each manufacturer is a bit different. BUt like the other guys said cutting them in takes time.

What I do to save time is leave out the last course of the circle then run my pattern (with the pavers Im using outside the circle) as close to it as I can. Then measure out your radius of the final circle and scribe it onto the pavers. Then I use my cut off saw and scribe the pencil line pull the pavers out one by one and cut them and then replace them. After that just pop in your final circle course.

I find the keeps the cut angle consistent throughout the whole border rather than have the cuts all have slightly different angles (which depending on your labor you may have)

ps. 8's are easy start doing some 16's lol

[Stonehenge]

Zullo - I love the driveway. Looks great.

Do I see concrete as the edge restraint? Definitely old school. Have you ever tried a paver restraint that comes in strips? We use an aluminum one and love it.

[rock engraver]

thanks for the info. nice work as well!

[zullo-design]

Originally Posted by Stonehenge

Zullo - I love the driveway. Looks great.

Do I see concrete as the edge restraint? Definitely old school. Have you ever tried a paver restraint that comes in strips? We use an aluminum one and love it.

yeah Im not a big fan of them and this way has been working for me and my install methods.

[Stonehenge]

Zullo - how thick is the bead you pour? Also, do you find that after a few years it's cracked into pieces 1-2' long? That's what I was seeing. I even started driving in rebar to anchor the bead to the subsoil, but I found it still migrated after a few years.

[Greensmith]

Looks nice Zullo, where are you based? The freeze/thaw here does murder on the concrete eding.

[eastern1]

Easy as can be as when you have the room to lay what you desire, but if you have to cut into existing asphalt thats another story.

[zullo-design]

Originally Posted by Stonehenge

Zullo - how thick is the bead you pour? Also, do you find that after a few years it's cracked into pieces 1-2' long? That's what I was seeing. I even started driving in rebar to anchor the bead to the subsoil, but I found it still migrated after a few years.

I've found how you do it has a large effect on how long it lasts. The way I go about when we pour the slab for the pavers I always go about 3-4" past the perimeter of the patio or walk. Then once the paving is done we take a trowel and cut any sand that extends past the pavers then use a small brush and sweep it so the part of the slab that is exposed is clean. The use a garden hose to mist the pavers and the slab so the cement bonds better. As long as the bead is thick enough and doesn't come to a point at the top edge of the paver and is resting on the slab it wont crack.


The ones Ive seen crack are because they are either way to thin, or the mix was way to dry and it didn't adhere or its resting on top of soil.


Also throwing a couple of shovels of motor in with your portland seems to help.