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06-07-2006, 05:30 PM
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Greg - it's a lot easier, faster, cheaper and more reliable to bury a good portion of the stone. You are correct - the tallest stone has about 8 1/2' exposed. 3 1/2' of that stone is in the ground, for a total of 12' in length.
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06-08-2006, 12:11 AM
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Dude, you are in one of the coolest states in the union wit many choices of quarries.... Yes I too am a cheesehead...... I found a quarry from Michels Construction just east of Waterloo, WI... it is the coolest quarry you will ever be in... hands down and probably only an hour away from you .... it is quarry #100 fro Michels... the stone is granite looking, real tough stuff, they grind it for railroad balast ( the purple stuff) also they do the shoreline of Lake Michigan with it... when I was there this spring they had a boulder the size of full size van getting loaded on a truck to Brazil. This place is worth driving to, if not just to see it. Take a truck not a car) The stone also has this shimmering effect in the sunlight with water features. Man you got me on a roll.... the stuff they blast is real angular and as long as you can move it around....it gets heavy faster than you think... it is perfect for what you are describing... or future projects..... make the call ... 1-920-478-2084.. ask for Steve.. he will give you a personal tour.. did I say it was worth it?...
I am just as pumped about this damn quarry as you are about your dang job.... check it out. you will freak out and and ... well who knows......
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06-08-2006, 12:59 AM
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Dan I think the truck was originally yellow by the interior and spent the first part of it's life in the Toronto area. The previous owner did the quicky white paint job. Thanks for the info.
Stonehenge - I was hoping to get a column about 8'x2'x2' which would weigh around 2.6 mt, which the crane on the truck can handle. At 12'x2'x2' it gets to just under 4 mt, which is over the rated capacity. Perhaps I'll look for a column that isn't as wide or tappers so I can get something in the 10'-12' range to get the above ground height I want.
Thanks.
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06-08-2006, 01:07 AM
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Michels Quarry in Waterloo WI ... take the guys and the trucks on the next rain day
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06-08-2006, 03:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Stonehenge
Hmmm.... Budgetary constraints may not allow us to go hog-wild on subs with cranes - we may look for other alternatives to granite. I'd like to be able to tackle these ourselves with the eqpt we have.
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Some good cranes services are not that expensive.
If the holes are predug, you may only need the crane for one or two hours.
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06-08-2006, 03:14 AM
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Here is a thought that I haven't seen up yet.
How about manufactured rock?
Gfrc manufactured rock is very light weight , 2 to 4 men could set it no need for a bob cat or watever, possibly no repairs to turf from a bob cat and etc. When you figure in the time and ALL of the costs of natural rock, manufactured rock might be cost effective.
I make my own rocks on site in place. I am working on a waterfall enhancement for a small pond. When I do the rock myself I will have very little in materials, a lot of the money will go to me and I will have created a really awesomely shaped rock / waterfall.
To find out more about gfrc manufactured rock go to google and type in gfrc manufactured rock.
Just be careful some professionally made gfrc rock doesn't look 100% real.
You might also check out the manufactured rock page of my web site. Go to paradisegardens4u.com to waterfalls construction and to the bottom and click on the big brown rock.
I sorted through all the web sites and have a list of the good gfrc web sites.
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06-08-2006, 04:35 PM
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Greg
What a small world. Got talking to my son and he said the interior was originally yellow. Old age is making some memories kind of fuzzy
I have put many hours and miles in that truck and it originally comes from the Lindsay area. Does the dump work now. The hydraulic cylinder was shot when we got rid of it and we used the crane and a chain to dump it.
I recognized it by the box and the red GMC letters in the black grill. I painted them when we repainted the truck in the early 90's
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06-08-2006, 10:33 PM
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Dan, yes the dump works, it's a dual cylinder setup though so maybe not the same truck. 1982 GMC C70, 366 engine, 5 sp with 2 speed axle. I drove it 550 km round trip out to the quarry last Saturday. Belmont Rose near Havelock, which is relatively close to Lindsay. Ever used their stone? It's the granite in the picture. The guy who runs it, Chris Proud, seems really nice. They do a lot of quarrying for monument stone. The landscape stone sells for pretty cheap, $30 ton. He even keeps a pile of fountain stones that he's predrilled, those sell for only a bit more. He calls them "bubbling rock" 
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06-08-2006, 10:54 PM
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Specs on that truck sound the same as ours was. Who knows if it is the same one but there couldn't be too many setup the same as that one around. Most of our work was North of Lindsay so we got our stone locally (nothing to farm but rock once you get 30 miles North) but I have heard of Chris Proud. I might have to go check out his rock because the price sounds good and I like the "bubbling rock" idea because it can save a lot of time.
Maybe I will get there when the Havelock Jamberee happens 
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