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07-18-2006, 10:11 PM
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pavers over existing concrete pool decking
Ok, so if you have a liner pool (metal frame with a vinyl liner) and the exis. concrete surrounding the pool is in good shape but needs updating, what do you do?
I want to do a paver overlay, but my main concern is does the raise in elevation (3") change anything with the safety of the pool? I can't think of anything besides the fact the first step into the pool will be slightly higher.
Is there something else anyone can tell me. I've done overlays before, but am just wondering why I always get the feeling I'm doing something wrong.
And the main reason I don't want to remove the exis. concrete is that it gets very tricky around a liner pool as the concrete is almost tied into the pool structure itself, especially after 20 plus years of being installed.
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07-19-2006, 12:18 AM
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Check out these pavers, about 1 1/2" thick. We just used them a couple months ago for a patio and walkway. Actually turned out better than I thought they would.
www.artisticpavers.com
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07-19-2006, 09:28 PM
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I'm acctually doing a job right now where 1800 sq ft of the job is concrete overlay.
The job is out of ep henry tennyson bluestone. I ended up glueing bluenose along the edge of the pool. Then i screeded out about 3/4in of sand. Then layed the blue stone. The home owner is going to paint the coping to match the liner.
Yes the step out of the pool is now 2 and 3/8s higher then the orginal, but i don't think anyone is notice.
Doing concrete over lay is easy! You save half the time.
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07-20-2006, 08:09 PM
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when doing concrete overlays do you go with a thicker paver along the edge? because how do you compensate for the 3/4 sand screeded in?
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07-20-2006, 09:37 PM
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Since you are going over concrete, make the bedding sand only 1/4" - 1/2" thick.
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07-24-2006, 12:01 AM
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I have done a lot of pavers adhered to stoops with concrete adhesive and people love the results. I was wondering if anyone else has done that on a pool deck.
And there are a couple of companies that produce 1" pavers in the Twin Cities, MN. I have used them and found that the are surprizingly tough.
Ecoscapes Sustainable Landscaping
The Right Plant in The Right Place the First Time!
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07-25-2006, 08:31 PM
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ok so you glue down the edge and screed1/4" of sand then lay the rest of the pavers on this it still wont come out the same height as your soldier course will it?
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07-25-2006, 09:37 PM
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no I glue down everything on stoops -- I don't know on a pool deck??? I was wondering if anyone has a solution? How do you gys screed out 1/4" of sand??? 1/4' rods???
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07-25-2006, 11:05 PM
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We use 3/8" copper rods, they can be found at any big box store.
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07-25-2006, 11:16 PM
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copper rods are flexible and about $4+ per pound?? i hope you bought those about two years ago before copper prices went thru the roof!
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07-25-2006, 11:31 PM
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If youre doing a small area just notch a 2x4and use the soldier to scree. if i'm doing a bigger area i use my regular pipes with a notched board
4season you might need to trowel a little and tap a little along the edge but it works out. i laid one without sand on a seemingly smooth pad and every tiny imperfection in the cement was a lot more noticeable with the pavers on it
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07-25-2006, 11:34 PM
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Your dealing with a fairly level structure. So there is little worry about the rods not staying straight. They sure last a long time I don't think we ever wore them out. And if you do bend one it's not hard to straighten one out. local prices here are around $13 for 10' heck black iron pipe is $8 for 10'
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07-26-2006, 08:32 PM
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thanks!, thats what Ive been doing. I was just wondering if I was right or wrong.
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