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Old 04-26-2003, 04:25 PM
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bye bye versa-lok

I think I have shown this product before, but figured I would again....

http://www.redi-rock.com/

In case you haven't heard of it, I would look into it. Over the past year, a local excavator has starting installing these walls.............and well, they are taking over!

I've heard of 4-5 jobs that were initially spec'ed out for versa-lok that were changed to the redi-rock.

I'm thinking about jumping on the band wagon. When it comes to structural wall systems, this redi-rock really has its act together........something like 15ft tall and NO GRID required.........that's huge.

Maybe the the wave of the future???? Who knows, but there are a LOT of these things going up in my area..........


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Old 04-26-2003, 08:51 PM
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Hey - one of my suppliers is going to start mfg that product - though I didn't see that they were going to make textured faces - I was thinking of using them to construct material bins (when we bought some land). But that supplier has had a tendency to promise something, then not deliver for a couple years...

I don't know if they could replace V-Lok on most residential projects around here, because those things are just too massive - but for larger residentials or shorelines or commercial, those might be the perfect solution.

Cool stuff!!
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Old 04-26-2003, 09:10 PM
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Yes, the idea of making bins out of them has crossed my mind too!

But for far less money, you can go to your local concrete plant......they usually use all the extra concrete left over in trucks and make blocks............about the same size, less fancy, and much cheaper.

Your right..........they won't replace versa-lok on 'decorative' wall jobs, like residential stuff, but on those walls exceeding 4 ft, they sure work out nice........

they are building a wall in town right now.......about 200 ft by 20 ft tall........they had it up in about 3 days. Very quick to build.

Of course........you need a excavator capable of lifting up a 1500lb block up. That's what makes it such a niche market for the excavators. All you need is a excavator, a few guys, and basic skills to build.

When you think about the labor involved with all those 'little' versa lok units going up a wall, then you think about all the time spent installing geo-grid every so many courses, the cost of these walls is considerable less. I've always felt that I would rather have a machine on a job than labor.........with these units, it does just that. Less labor, more machine. A good combination these days.

Think about how many people are required on a large wall job. Know you basically replace them all with one operator and 2 guys to help set the block........it sounds very nice!
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If the job site allows it, you don't even need an excavator. The delivery truck can be hired to install the wall, usually at a good rate. $65/ hr round here.
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We have been pushing larger units for the past year, mostly Dura-hold and Siena stone. At this time there in not a big market for it but with labor costs rising (for my area of work) I think it will catch on faster.

Siena stone seems to be a bigger seller right now for us. We are averaging around 1000 Fc feet a year now. Plus we are one of the few that know how to install it fast. Having a mini ex helps.

Dura-hold sales are slower mostly due to project size and the requirements for curves in walls. We expect to see an increase in this area within the next 2-5 years.
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