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Hand Rail in Sienna Stone
I know Paul's going to have the answer to this..... 
How would you go about installing a handrail like the one pictured here? Sienna Stone, so it's not easy to move around - looks like a core bit to punch through the Sienna, but then what?
Drive a pipe into the subsoil, below frostline, and install the handrail like a sleeve over that pipe? |
03-06-2003, 03:21 PM
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Hey!!!
I just realized there's no picture pictured here!!
Let's try this again..... 
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03-06-2003, 03:22 PM
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Need a picture of it first........ LOL
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03-06-2003, 03:29 PM
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Ok I see it now...........
We have done projects like this, one we had a fence installed on top of a wall built of Sienna stone. On that one we core drilled the wall 30" deep then set the fence and used a pour rock concrete to hold it down. It's not hard to do just make sure you core the hole in the right place 
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03-06-2003, 03:50 PM
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So do you core the hole bigger than the diameter of the post? Or same size?
And in a case like this one, would you core through crushed stone base, subsoil, etc? If you do, how do you get the post in without the sides of the hole caving in?
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03-06-2003, 04:26 PM
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For 2.5" posts we core 3" to 4" depending on the load. For a hand rail like that shown I would just core thru the block not going any deeper. heck the unit weighs over 450 lbs!!!
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03-09-2003, 01:13 PM
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Also if you built the base right a cored hole will not cave in. Remember 95%!!
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03-09-2003, 09:34 PM
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True, but if you were ramming a pipe the same dimension as the hole, you'd be bound to catch a few stones on the way down - I'm wondering if that would cause a cave-in below it, or just the loss of a few inches of depth.
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03-10-2003, 09:07 PM
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The hole is always bigger than the pipe.... can't get the pour rock into the hole without it being bigger.
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03-10-2003, 10:47 PM
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Ok, I'm going to ask a dumb question....
What is 'pour rock'?
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03-11-2003, 01:07 AM
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"Pour rock" is a thin concrete mix that sets fast. It's manufactured by Quickcrete. When mixed it pours like water or close to it, but sets up in 20 minutes.
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Knowing Paul, I'd figure he would of suggested using a epoxy of some sort also.
I think I'm in agreement. With the weight of the stone, I can't see needing to go much deeper than 3-4" with the core hole.
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03-11-2003, 11:19 PM
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I would have but it gets expensive to fill in a 30" deep core on a fence. LOL Most times the fence or hand rail is build on site and a bit of play in the hole is needed. So the 1/2" allows that and it would take a whole bunch of epoxy to fill that in with the cost going out of sight........
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