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Old 02-25-2003, 09:09 AM
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Oh hardscape enlightened ones!

I'm looking to see which cutoff saw is your favorite. Which ones have you owned or tried?

I'm particularly interested in trying a couple of new brands of saw this year - Target looks like they've come out with a nice one. It may have been out a year or two already, and by the looks of the prices that brand of saw is going for on Ebay, I'm thinking they might be worth a shot. They look similar to a Partner saw.

The other saw I'm interested in trying, I'm not quite sure who the mfg is. I believe one company is making these saws as a private label for several companies. I just don't know who the original mfg is. The current cutoff saw offerings by Makita, Wacker, Dolmar and Speedi-Cut are for all intents and purposes identical. Same look, same specs. Only difference is the plastic was dyed a different color and a different label attached.

Those that know me know what brands of saw we run, so I won't jump in with those just yet.

What's the saw that takes the abuse but keeps on cuttin'?


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Old 02-25-2003, 09:29 AM
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The positives of owning a Partner or Stihl Cut-Off Saw are, They are sold so widespread throughout the country, it is easy to get parts when they breakdown, and the techs repairing them usually know exactly the problem with them.....Don't forget to fill out your warranty info right away so you are covered for that first year....BEWARE of any tools you buy on EBAY...Most are garbage and REMANUFACTURED...Partner, Stihl, and Edco saws....These are the most popular among contractors....
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Old 02-25-2003, 06:03 PM
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For some reason, I believe the target saw is the same as the makita, wacker, dolmar...etc. etc.

Someone out there is cashing in on a saw just changing the colors on it.

I run partners. My favorite is the k950. I love the power, and even though it is a bit heavy, I tend to use it for everything.

I also have a k650, but am a little worried about it. I had one last year and burned it out in a week......they told me it was because of not having oil in the gas......but I am 100% positive I had the right mix.

I wonder if the k650 just can't handle the long running cuts when doing pavers and burns itself out.

Maybe I should stick with the k700 and above.

Never owned a stihl yet, but have used them. I still believe the partners outpower them. I've used the biggest stihl out there, and will say that the k950 seemed to blow it away.

The k1250 is a monster, but just too big to use daily.

I've thought about maybe getting one of the hydraulic powered units and run it off of my dingo or mini-x's auxillary hydraulics........seems like it might be a neat idea.

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Old 02-25-2003, 08:35 PM
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If I recall, Digin' had a similar problem with a K650. I guess I've been lucky - I really haven't had much of a problem. But I will admit that after 100-200' of cuts for a single project on a hot day, the saw will cut out on me and not start again until it's cooled off.

I've got 2-K650's, 1-K950, and a TS-400 for cutoff saws. The Stihl TS 400 was the first cutoff saw I've purchased, and it still runs. However, it does seem to have a bit less power than the Partners. The two things that sold me on Partner over Stihl were:

1) The distance between the throttle and the opposite hand grip. This distance is much greater on a Partner, which results in better control of the saw. You really notice it when using a Partner for awhile then going back to a Stihl. Less control = less accurate cutting.

2) Vibe protection. I used the Stihl for about 4-5 hours one day, and two fingers on the throttle hand went numb for a few days. Just vibrated the nerves too much, I guess. Worked out OK, as I had an infected cut on one of the fingers, so I was able to scrub the heck out of the wound without feeling a thing.

The filtration system seems better on the Partner, but it's hard to be critical of the Stihl when it's still running after 6 years.

And I do like the starter cord for the Stihl better. I've put their cord on all the Partners.

As for that Target saw, I'm pretty sure it's a different saw from Makita, Dolmar, etc. Actually, now that I think about it, the Target saw looks a lot like the Husqvarna saw.
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Old 02-25-2003, 09:22 PM
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We run Partner k950's ... In the past we have had Stihl but as mentioned in this post I feel the Partner has a better filter system which is important with multiple users that don't always take the same care as an owner/operator may.

Whats the differance with the pull cords ..It's been a long time since we ran Stihl and I can't recall anything special about it?

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Old 02-25-2003, 09:45 PM
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The handle piece is made of a more forgiving rubber, and the cord itself has plastic nubs, that when installed in the handle, leaves a little extra cord inside the handle, so when you pull the cord to start and fully extend the cord, there's still a bit more give, making it easier on your hands and easier on the saw.
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K-650's here I think we have 5 or 6, have to check....... What I like about them they balance well, plus the filters are great on them, servicing them is fast. Things to keep around extra nuts for the arm, filters and belts. We buy our oil by the case so all trucks have a 6 pack in them, plus our hardscape trailers we keep a couple of 6 packs of oil. One other thing I have found is to use a bit more oil when the saw is new. Plus use fresh gas.........
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Old 02-25-2003, 11:17 PM
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Oh yeah - forgot about the nuts. And Partner makes the nuts a size that is heretofor unseen by man. Threads/inch and diameter are something that no other nut I've ever found will fit.

Thankfully my dealer keeps old parts from wrecked saws, and has been able to set me up with replacements (zip ties will do in a pinch, but only last about a day).
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Old 02-25-2003, 11:34 PM
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ONE MORE PLUS ABOUT PARTNERS IS THE ARBOR.....1 INCH...NO RINGS OR ADAPTERS TO LOSE OR FOOL WITH WHEN PUTTING ON YOUR BLADE....
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Old 02-26-2003, 12:55 AM
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I used Stihls for ever. I hadn't even heard of Partner until about 4 or 5 years ago. I thought stihl was the cat's meow, even though I only got one season out of them before the top end needed to be rebuilt and after the second season they were scrap. I thought that was just the nature of the beast. Partners had a bad reputation around here so I never tried one. Stonehenge told me how much he liked them so I gave a 700 a try last year. WOW. This saw rocks. The stihl's filters needed to be cleaned every time the saw was fueled and replaced at least 2 times per season. The partner saw a full season with the same filter and you could still almost eat off it. The power and control are fantastic. The machine doesn't dance across the patio when you leave it running and set it down for a moment. I did have it crap out on me 100 days after I bought it (10 days after warrantee lapsed), but the dealer said they probally set it up too lean and Partner paid to fix it. So I have no intention of switching back to Stihl anytime soon.

O almost forgot, Stihls also go through starter cords like crazy 4-5 year, My Partner's cord broke for the first time in the first week of November. Partner's rock dudes.

You can specify the arbor size you want on a Partner. Around here 20mm arbors are common (stihl size) so that's the easiest blade to get. I think that there are actually 3 different arbors that come in the Partner box.
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Old 03-03-2003, 08:07 AM
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Digin - were you finding that the cord was tightly recoiled when installed, but got slack after a bit, starting the rubbing process that would ultimately lead to breaking?
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I have always been a Stihl guy. All the problems you guys touched on are right on the money. My concern with the Partners saw is the field of view. Will I be able to see the paver as good. It seems as if the guard is a little larger therefore the view would be hindered. Anyone? And, if go to Partner what size is translates to the TS 400?

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Old 03-13-2003, 12:53 PM
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I have a TS 400, and I'd say a Partner K650 would be about equal. If you want to be sure (re: power) get a K700.

K950's are quite a bit more powerful than the TS 400. That was my first experience with Partner - needed another saw, rented the K950 w/ 16" blade to try it out - after running through about a 15' run of pavers with the saw I honestly stood up and shouted "Yeeeee Haaaawwww!". Very powerful and fast. All my guys were

Bought a K950 later that same day.

As for visibility of work, I guess I never noticed a difference one to the other. There's still snow on the ground here, so I can't test to see. But I don't recall feeling like I was having a hard time seeing my work - I seemed to have equal chance of removing my toes with either brand.
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The TS-400 comes in 2 sizes......12" or 14" The partner saws are numbered as per Blade size...K-650 is a 12" K-700 is a 14" THe larger saws like a 950 will take up to a 16" If you guys need saws, I can help you and save a few bucks too.....
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ALL: I'm an Acquisition Specialist for US Army. We have been fielding Partner K700 Quikie saws to deploying units in various theaters of operation. I just had some big$$ dropped on me, but I have to spend it before Sep 26. Can not use conventional bidding. I need a source for Partner with a GSA contract. Can anybody help. My name is Rob Huke, and I can be reached at 508-233-4538, Natick, MA in office from 0630 to 1630 Eastern. Many thanks.
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