[jshilan]

Depending on the situation, I'll spin it to the client that grass is really just a form of ground cover. Hmmm! Then I just suggest that we find a different gound cover that is more appropriate for the shadier conditions such as ivy, vinca, pachy etc.

If you do garden maintenance or if you want to sell a bigger project try suggesting a shade garden with step stones and maybe a bench. People love the word garden. You can still be lush, green and colorful, you just can't play soccer on it (well not well).

I'm gonna actually do some of my own work now.