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[quote]Originally posted by jwholden
[b]Remember you are dealing with two different midsets.

You design something that has to be 'just so' and you sweated over the details for hours.

Most contractors are interested in getting the job done in the quickest manner possible so they can get their check and move on to the next job.

Give the details, but only those details that are pertinent to the job. Can you make a seperate sheets detailing the layout for the paver area or pergola so no one gets confused.

It comes down to how much your client is willing to pay for the detail you design. If they want it exactly as you specefied they should hire you to hire and manage the subs. You would make daily, or twice a day site visits to make sure everything is going ok or if the contractor needs anything.

Try to encourage the contractor to take ownership in OUR project. No one gets excited over doing it exactly as the desigener drew it. Especially if the designer insists that the edge of the walk be recut because the it is 1" off the ine.

What if the designer asked for some input from the guy installing the job? Do you think the contractor would take more ownership in the project? Would he be happier about what he is installing?

Yep, you are correct! The visionary-designer and the make-it-happen installer DO have different mindsets! Both are essential to creating a great landscape!

I am hoping at some point to have a working relationship with an installer where we know what to expect from each other going both directions! I do feel that it would be beneficial to be more involved in the implementation of my designwork...I guess it depends on the client and what they are willing to pay.