So the issue exists. I agree with Bill about this but putting this into action has been like I said, "precarious". My designs look professional. I will say that we are fastly moving away from "designing as a part of the bidding process" because the reality is that designing is involved and takes time to put out nice plans. Speaking of nice looking plans, I have a very large stack of plans in my office, drawn by ASLA certified landscape architects that graphically speaking, range from "stark commerical designs" to "horrible" and "unreadable" to "this guy obviously never set foot on this site!"

Some of them are great but I am surprised at some of these plans I've seen. Dynascape helps us offer nice looking plans that are to scale and accurate. It is too much to offer without the money involved. I suppose we're just trying to work our way up the scale starting from charging next to nothing to charging fairly. Make sense?
Mark