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Old 09-30-2004, 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by justgardens
That's a tough no smoking policy Dale.
I don't think so. It's my business and I make the rules. All potential employees know this at application or before, and I drug test also. It does not affect who or how we have to hire. I pay for their health insurance. If I have to hire someone who smokes just because I need a body, then my whole system is not working.

I hire attitude and personal demeanor before skill. I knew of a company where the construction manager with 3 crews working, was the biggest offender. He would fire up standing there talking to a client. He threw the butts on the shop floor. He threw them on the ground in the yard, he generally was pretty unkempt.

Kind of hard to set a standard / example when the supervisor is a sloth. It seems that more people smoke in the Midwest / east Coast areas than out west here, and that may have a lot to do with it. I noticed that on my trips to Delaware , Maryland, Chicago, Detroit and to the Mid and deep south.

It is only a matter of time before you see health insurance companies with different rate structures for smokers, and for people with above normal / average BMI's.

I was no angel in my younger days
( 25 plus years ago), I smoked cigs and weed, I drank a lot, stayed up late, but at some point responsibility takes over.

With todays litageous (sp??) society, operating a business is risky. I am in the process of splitting my business up into about 3 different corporations to protect personal and company assets.

If you do not drug test and you have an employee / vehicle / workmens comp accident, and they test positive, YOU ARE SCREWED.




I want to portray the best image of my business possible. I will control all aspects of the PUBLIC PERCEPTION that I possibly can. It just is not in our business model to have tobacco or drug users in our employ.

End of rant.
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